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The Story Daegan Smith Shared With Me When He Came to England

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Author, Columnist, Social Media Marketing Consultant, One of the original web pioneers. Believer in living dreams.

Telling Stories

I’ve taken a bit of a break from my blog, and I’m not about to apologise. Blogging is a marathon, not a sprint, and I’ve blogged every month since 2008, so every now and then I take a couple of weeks off to mull things over and refresh my blogging palate.

Sometimes, when I do this, I have an adventure from which a story springs, which I’m able to share with my friends in the blogosphere when I return. That’s EXACTLY what happened this time and, my friends, it is a doozy!

Daegan Smith is a Word Nerd

I went to a marketing conference. It was the first ever UK Internet MLM Summit. The moment that made the whole event for me came from someone I did not know well at all … Daegan Smith.

Obviously I’d heard of Daegan but, somehow, I’d managed to avoid being on his list. While I knew OF him, I didn’t really know him at all. I had no expectations. Then he began to speak, and I was blown away. He was a… WORD NERD!!!

The Hero’s Journey

As the words rolled from his tongue (the man has an almost hypnotic voice), I realised that even though I was in a room with marketers, I could just as easily have been surrounded by authors and members of the writing industry.

He spoke into my word nerd heart as he described the process of putting together an email campaign in the manner of a novel. Although he didn’t use all the same terminology we bookish types use when geeking out on such matters, it was clear he was talking about everything from the fictive dream to the emotional arc. When he started into the archetypes, I nearly lost it. I’ve been writing about just this subject in my new book, How to Build an Author Platform.

I sat between two male nerds. The three of us were writing so fast that I felt sure a pen-related injury was imminent. I said, to neither of them in particular: ‘Do you think most of the people here have ANY idea how valuable this is?’ They answered ‘Nope’ in unison and continued to scribble every golden nugget.

Where Do You Find Wisdom?

If you are a writer, keep your eyes and ears open wherever you are. It may be that you are a public sector procurement specialist by day and a writer of science fiction by night. Great. Don’t be surprised, though, if The Muse doesn’t bother to show up at a Sci-Fi conventions, but hits you – instead – in the middle of a meeting on tendering legislation.

If you are a marketer, you may hear the most insightful slice of wisdom on a webinar with an industry leader. However, you might also hear it while listening to toddlers negotiating over their toys. You just never know.

Be wary of segmenting your life too much, and missing the stories that cross the bridges between the different islands on your own idiosyncratic lake of existence. All of this stuff connects in the end. We are story-telling creatures, and that’s what makes us so special.Copyright Rebecca Woodhead 2012

Have you noticed this in your life? Leave me a comment and share your thoughts and experiences.


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  1. Monna Ellithorpe
    Monna Ellithorpe04-30-2012


    I totally enjoyed reading about your meeting with Daegan Smith.

    I’m still amazed of how your writing makes me feel as if I were standing right there when you were talking to Daegan.

    It is true, you never know when an idea will hit you. It may not even mean a thing at the time but write it down; it came to you for a reason to use at some time.

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  2. Christi Johnson
    Christi Johnson04-30-2012

    Rebecca, this article is awesome…for a lot of reasons. First of all, you wrote it. Second of all, you’re a tremendous writer. I love reading anything you write. Next…you wrote about Daegan. Daegan is a money-making MACHINE…and he does it providing nothing but value. Incredible! Rare!! Super smart!!!

    I am very guilty of segmenting my life and not connecting all the dots over the course of time…but I am doing it more and more now, and because of it, I am learning more….faster! Thanks for always making me think about what I am thinking about. You rock!
    Christi Johnson recently posted..Top Ten (10) Actions That MUST Be Done When Starting A New BusinessMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-01-2012

      Thanks so much for your lovely comment. He is tremendously smart but also obsessed with helping people. He wanted to over-deliver all the way through the event. Always trying to give just a little more. His fiancée is wonderful too. I sat next to her on the first day. That night, I went for a meal with her, Daegan, Diane Hochman, the organisers. Great to hang out with them. Amazing night.
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  3. Tonya Stephens
    Tonya Stephens04-30-2012

    Hi Rebecca,
    I had the pleasure of hearing Daegan speak last October at the Live The Dream II event.
    He is a true marketing genius.
    Glad you were able to attend this great MLM event in your area.
    Looking forward to reading more about the nuggets you gleaned from this event.
    To your success,
    Tonya Stephens recently posted.."How To Prospect In MLM"My Profile

  4. Rasheed

    Daegan Smith is such a crazy marketer. I need to look into him more, I heard an interview with him recently and he’s just such a chill guy.

    I love learning about word nerds, being one myself :P

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  5. Jamella Biegel
    Jamella Biegel05-01-2012

    Hi Rebecca,

    We can find wisdom in many places and as you noted, sometimes when you don’t expect it. That’s one reason I like reading comments that are left on blogs. You never know who is going to share something that sparks an idea.

    Thanks for sharing.
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  6. Rebecca Woodhead
    Rebecca Woodhead05-01-2012

    Jamella, that is such a good point. I actually made a video about that very thing the other day. I’ll link to it below.
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  7. Juli Becker
    Juli Becker05-01-2012

    Rebecca, I too am a word nerd, being a college English major and all, and I love Daegan’s unique style of email marketing. It is no wonder that he is as successful as he is. His stories are engaging, captivating and hypnotic at times. His emails are long, novelish, epic. I need to start implementing/imitating what he does. Juli
    Juli Becker recently posted..5 Unique Ways To Build A Relationship With Your ListMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-01-2012

      I know. It was a revelation to me that the kinds of emails I actually WANT to write are the ones that get the most attention. I’ve spent so long listening to people telling me to write totally different kinds of emails that it was an amazing moment when this King of Email stood in front of me and did exactly what I’m most comfortable doing. I might be about to get seriously dangerous on the email marketing front! I LOVE stories!

  8. David Sharp
    David Sharp05-01-2012

    I envy you your word nerdishness Rebecca, although I do quite a bit of writing I do struggle with it a bit. I am married to a word nerd though so I know were you are coming from.

    It is important to take a mental note of many things in our lives in order to create the stories we need to tell, in order to get our message across.

    David Sharp recently posted..How I Found 7 Minute WorkoutMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-01-2012

      Thanks David. :)

  9. Michelle Goddard
    Michelle Goddard05-02-2012


    I loved this post and the email that brought me here again.. your story made me think of my sister who is truly a word nerd, studying English and creative writing and now churning out novels at break neck speed whilst juggling two little ones.. I don’t know how she does it! I only just find time to blog once or twice a week! I must definitely learn more about Daegan, I’ve seen his name everywhere lately.. and I can hardly believe that I left my home in Peterborough, England to move to the US just a year ago.. so missed out on the UK summit! Thank you for sharing a piece of the event so vividly!
    Michelle Goddard recently posted..The Power of Good HabitsMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-02-2012

      Your sister sounds great. :)

      Daegan’s amazing. You can grab some free training from him at the bottom of the post. Keep an eye out for his emails if you grab that training, too. Reading those is a lesson in itself.

  10. Ethan Caine
    Ethan Caine05-03-2012

    Cool story, very inspiring. Deagan seems like a cool guy.
    Ethan Caine recently posted..My 90 Day Prospecting ChallengeMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-15-2012

      ‘Cool’ doesn’t even start to describe it. His fiancée’s pretty cool too. We sat together at the event. Lovely couple.

  11. Val Heisey
    Val Heisey05-03-2012

    Hi Rebecca, Daegan is an amazing marketer. I saw him at Live the Dream II also. And, I opted in to his list, so I received a good many emails from him that demonstrated his expertise with words. The one nugget I see here is the potential for successful email marketing! Many say it doesn’t work, but Daegan is proof that it can as long as you master the words. Thanks for sharing your experience!
    Val Heisey recently posted..MLM Success: Use it or Lose ItMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-15-2012

      Val, you are so right.

  12. Julie Day
    Julie Day05-06-2012

    Really liked this article. I get my wisdom from reading papers and also from writing magazines, esp Writing Magazine. Have been reading it today and got a few ideas already for letters and short true-life pieces to write for magazines.

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-15-2012

      Writing Magazine, eh? That gets one of these … :)

      Check out my column this month. I’ve written about what I call ‘Bubble and Squeak Marketing’. It’ll save you a LOT of work and time. I just adore that magazine. It saw me through some tough times as an aspiring author. I did the contests every month. I didn’t send them in, I just did them. It gave me discipline.

  13. Kevin Hobbs
    Kevin Hobbs05-07-2012

    Hi Rebecca, I have heard so much about this guy every where, I look forward to the day I have a chance to hear him speak in person. Well I have to ask, was there a pen-related injury? I just had to Laugh, to funny. Thank for sharing and being so inspirational in you writing. I look forward to more of your insights.

    Kevin Hobbs recently posted..Don’t Let Your Home Office Kill Your Internet Marketing BusinessMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-15-2012

      There actually WAS a pen-related injury. The sad part is that it still hasn’t healed. Hand, arm and shoulder. Ouch. I learnt my lesson.

  14. Amos

    Hi Rebecca, Daegan is the king of never call a single leads and also solo ad master. I am sure you have learnt a lot from him in the event. :)
    Amos recently posted..Third Party Invado International ReviewMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-15-2012

      Absolutely. I plan to dive into the world of solo ads and go for a swim in the next few weeks. Seems as if the water is warm right now.

  15. Adrienne

    Hi Rebecca,

    Since this is my first visit to your blog I have to admit I’ve never read any of your other posts so I’ll have to thumb back through a few here in a bit.

    I know of Daegan and followed him briefly in my earlier days online but I admit being clueless back then so what he shared was way over my head. It’s been years since I’ve caught up with him but of course he’s a very successful marketer so I can only imagine the gold nuggets he shared.

    Wish I could have been a fly on the wall at that conference. I do love it when I attend events whether they are offline or online and pick up a few of those gold nuggets myself. I walk away having an aha moment and just deliriously happy.

    Looks like your faithful readers are happy you’ve returned and were able to share with them what you’ve been up to.

    Thanks Rebecca and enjoy your weekend.

    Adrienne recently posted..How To Build Relationships Through Blog CommentsMy Profile

    • Rebecca Woodhead
      Rebecca Woodhead05-27-2012

      Hi Adrienne,

      Thanks for your lovely comment. I love the way that the internet brings us all so much closer together. I know that for some people ‘in person’ events are the only way to go but, like you, I also get so much from online events.

      The one thing that you don’t get at online events is the random ‘hanging out together’ time. On the first night, 8 of us went for a meal together. It was raucous. Just hanging out with Daegan as we all shared stories and jokes over a meal was a blast. You get a feeling for the true nature of someone once their guard is down. If there’s a lack of integrity, you can pick it up. Daegan was the same when he was tipsy and tired as he was on stage. It’s tough to sum someone up after only ‘knowing them’ for a few days, but I left there with a good feeling about who he was beneath the brand.


  16. Jay Carter
    Jay Carter09-09-2012

    Deagan Smith is 1 of the top dudes in the internet marketing game.

    Also I’ve learnt things under unusual circumstances, life suprises me often.

  17. Isabel kroemer
    Isabel kroemer08-06-2013

    Hi Rebecca, I am enjoying reading your story with Daegan. Lol aword nerd from him, and a hero’s journey. Interesting, really!
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  18. Ouida Sparkman
    Ouida Sparkman08-19-2013

    I truly love this site. I am intrigued for sure. It is as if I know you personally. I am a fan. I have your book “Palaces and Calluses” and have requested to be on your list for your mag. Thank you for sharing a great site with so much information.

  19. Susan

    After reading your blog post, Daegan Smith became my thing. I want to know more about his as hi is such an amazing internet marketer. Thank you so much for posting this article!
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    manya tyagi11-07-2013

    I totally enjoyed reading about your meeting with Daegan Smith.Thank you for sharing a great site with so much information.

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    Froum Posting11-10-2013

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  24. sandheya

    Daegan Smith`s jouney is very fantastic. he also help the needy peoples.i really appreciate this information.he also have a hypnotic voice. tahnks for sharing .

  25. Mike Huiwitz
    Mike Huiwitz03-05-2014

    Wow. A Word Nerd. I’d love to meet one.
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  26. Golf

    I love learning about word nerds, being one myself

    I agree with this story.
    Thank you for information sharing

  27. Hypnosis

    Yes your story with Daegan is really very nice and interesting. It is my good luck, i am here to your blog to read this story. Very well written. I will always looking to your site for new stories or articles. Thank you for sharing this nice story.

  28. nesler marce
    nesler marce06-19-2014

    I have never heard of Daegen Smith before until i read this article. I am still a bit young though, but i am going to look online to see whats the buzz is about. I have heard of the term word nerd but i have never met one.
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  29. Ganeshkumar


    This made an excellent read. I have too been in situations where people in the audience are trying to quickly scribe every byte of information they hear. But a pen related injury? hahaha… That was too good. Very well written.
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  30. Weight lifting
    Weight lifting10-08-2014

    OMG a word nerd, i would like to meet that guy!
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